The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. No prep and no knowledge. 14 years ago. #1. so the Doomslayer stomps. PR Beyonder curbstomps. so i think the only characters that can beat him are tier 0 characters like boundless. Victory by permanent death or erasure. Beyonder's best feat is defeating a multiverse level entity, the Living Tribunal, which was a big deal. While The Living Tribunal is rated 1-A (more than The Beyonder)and 616 Eternity or Multi-Eternity is rated High 1-B (same as The Beyonder). Pre-Retcon Beyonder has more statements of powers than the new ones. Pre-retcon Beyonder was significantly more powerful. DONATE TO SUPPORT THE CHANNEL! Put a message with your donation so I know your request if your donation is for a request tier. Originally posted by the DarkoneBefore they were retconned, Beyonder and Molecule Man we nearly omnipotent. Beyonder scaled above all. #11. The omnipotent Beyonder is on a destructive rampage and has decided to destroy the entire Marvel omniverse. Dr Manhattan Vs The Beyonder. Forum Posts. There is literally nothing that OPM could do to even affect him. 3. panos2000000 • 1 yr. said: "Pre-Retcon Beyonder wins 10/10. PR Beyonder was able to erase LT with a wave of his hand. Preretcon Beyonder wins. That was the whole point of "Secret Wars II. I can only speak of Pre-Retcon Beyonder since that is who I am familiar with, but pre-Retcon Beyonder was explicitly a being outside of the Marvel totality. Well COIE Anti Monitor, as powerful as he may be, is actually a little out of his league here. All indications are that. Doomslayer can beat 69420 trillion Master Chiefs and has literally indestructible armor he stomps. #2 blackspidey2099. Not to say he's necessarily just a planetary threat now. Battles. Jump Force Goku view all Shonen as fiction how will Pre Retcon Beyonder will win. 5 years ago Galactic_1000Every single universe in the entirety of the Marvel multiverse combined is literally a drop in the ocean to Pre-Retcon Beyonder's power, The minotors exist in a dimension called "The Bleed", which is basically identical to Marvels "The Beyond". Pre retcon Beyonder. The Beyonder was surprised by Mephisto. He'd have as much chance as an ant against omnipotence. No, he is likely Presence level. 0. Azrael and Time(Discworld) 4. Reply. He may have to resort to starving them out by erasing humanity though. 3 years ago. Reviews: 0. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. Beyonder even realized he was the Pre-Retcon one too lol Not to mention Beyonder detailing Doc Strange's win con over him, tailor made for Loki and proven when he and Sylvie enchanted Alioth, who. But beyonder that isn’t pr gets absorbed. The rest of the rounds Marvel is pretty dominant, maybe they could do something in the final round. @kingkronos said: @Pwok21 said:. You can also upload and share your favorite Beyonder wallpapers. PR Beyonder takes it 10/10. Forum Posts. Franklin Richards(full control of his powers) All the celestials. The mightiest beings (Living Tribunal) are microbes to him. . The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is ery powerful, but not powerful enough to beat the one above all. so i think the only characters that can beat him are tier 0 characters like boundless. Follow 474. I really can't be asked to go. Regulator Thanos wins, both these characters are above LT in power scope, however the HOTU. Hence why people differentiate the. He needed to use his entire power to kill mistress death which left. Beyonder, when first created, could defeat Galactus, because he was. the same Molecule Man that trapped the Omniverse in a box. Spectre. This is PRE-Retcon Beyonder, you know, before LT could do shit to him and pulled out that asswipe explanation. Imagion all he powers in the Marvel Multiverse (which is infinite), not just the Multiverse but also every being in it, and emptyness (which is also infinite) beyond it (blank pages) Even Stan Lee stated in an interview in the 80s, that Beyonder was supose to represent the power the writers had. Lucifer is a different beast. Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)PennywiseThe Crimson King. Pre Retcon Beyonder = TOAA > Eternity 1st Retconned Beyonder < Cosmic Cube (Because part of the power was in Owen Reece) Recent Retcon Beyonder < the marvel abstracts but not by much. He can't exist beyound the source wall which limits him to not a 11-D being but probably a 10-D. The Beyonder was also stated to be "Beyond the Marvel Multiverse/Omniverse" which means that, he was beyond "Infinite-Dimensions" or "Trans-Infinity". If PR Beyonder is superior to TOAA then God Emperor. Mxy is done. CCC Gilgamesh vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder. . R. Even if Thanos had 100 years prep and had the IG, PR Beyonder erases him from existence with his hand. deactivated-5d755a684b00b. so the 1st retcon beyonder. Has no equal or superior, Created Heaven’s (which could be a Universe) with a word and is just flat out stated to be omnipotent with. In no way, shape, or form you can scale to the whole thing. Pre-Retcon Beyonder just erases the Throne of Heroes, killing every single servant because servants are copies of heroes, made using information from the Throne of Heroes Or he could just wipe out the entire Fate universe and everything outside itPre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. First is the. Pre Retcon Beyonder is the Supreme Being of his Multiverse. Beyonder (Pre-Retcon Feats, Secret Wars and 1984 and pre-1984 Scaling only) Ivory Kings, First Firmament + Ultimate Ultimates. 14 years ago. God Emperor Doom has no feats that matter at this level, Pre-retcon Beyonder turns him into a toilet. -Everything in bleach. Ruphas not in baseline L1A, Ruphas can easily defeated Alovenus which is rated L1A character. Jmarshmallow. Trying to apply that to the Beyonder is meaningless, he may as well embody all of them considering his origin. Due to sun wukong's absolute transcendence to buddhahood. Even if that IG (which was a modern variant which has barely any universal feats) was the multiversal one it was during the Infinity Gauntlet saga, it would still not be enough to match pre retcon Beholder. You do realize Pre-Retcon Beyonder is like, the second or third most powerful comic book character ever, while Anti-Monitor wouldn't even be in the Top 10. The Beyonder realm might be a million times bigger than the entire Marvel Multiverse combined but in the end it's still part of the larger multiverse. The only other non-Omnipotent characters in Marvel who might even rival a bloodlusted pre-Retcon Beyonder for one are the Infinite Infinites and Divine Creator VIA narrative wanking. Also the Doomslayer has way more fighting and combat feats. Post retcon would be a closer fight. #. Yes I'am aware of that but you to remeber that with the Inhuman Beyonder was that this retcon took him back to his Pre-Retcon roots and also everything Pre-Retcon Beyonder did is still cannon to. Pre Retcon Beyonder said that the combined powers of all the beings in the multiverse (including entities) where just like a drop in the sea and is considered to be a million times powerful than. Death from what I remember had no power of Lucifer, only Destiny did - so I think it's safe to assume she scales below him. (616)Spider-Man with the powers of the beyonder vs these verses. I will need to have cited evidence for. 140. 4 years ago. PRE-RETCON BEYONDER? All of them are BLOODLUSTED! TOAA is the special referee! DB universe characters start at their maximum power and are already at their most powerful form! 14 years ago. Round 4 same as round 3 the retcon happened for a reason. Dec 24, 2015. Beyonder still probably loses to Thought Robot Superman, Final Batsuit Batman, Anti-Crisis Wonder Woman, Lucifer Morningstar and Michael Demiurgos, Perpetua, the Darkest Knight, true form Darkseid,. While Bruce may have had god's full power (and I doubt that he did) he lacks the intelligence to use it, even Mxy does more. Nope. Follow 23035. Pre-Retcon Beyonder has no physical form, no spiritual form, and or astral form but can take on these forms when he chooses and Beyonder was once Infinite Dimensional and even still his physical form. A Pre-Retcon Beyonder is beyond the Galaxy, beyond Dimensions, beyond the Multi Verse and should easily stomp the absolute shit out of whatever pseudo intellectual Neil Gaiman fake mystic mumbo. g. 3. Basically beyonder is being of infinite dimensions when He limits himself, but as beyond realm he is a creature that goes beyond all that. The molecule man destroys the machine and sends the enormous energies of the Beyonder into his beyond-realm forming a big bang and creating a new universe in the process - Scan 1, Scan 2, Scan 3, Scan 4 and Scan 5. As PRB is an embodiment of Infinite Dimensions + Beyonder Realm in totality, and there is no evidence that Demonbaneverse is. Rememeber he is a CONCEPT who wields power enough for him to create and destroy 60 billion. Learn the difference between the original, toned-down, and evolved versions of the Beyonder, a cosmic entity that can create and. The Beyonder “realizes” something. He is a cosmic cube which is an Omni-dimensional object that can expand infinitely but that is only a limited part of him because he limits himself. Round 4: All-Mighty vs The three of them. ". "No other force or power in existence could. Originally posted by the Darkone Spectre at full powered is above the pre-recon beyonder, Spectre is powered by God, I'm sorry that's one Ace even the pre-recon Beyonder can't overcome. It will take a signifigant effort to kill the Phoenix Force, Just like Death, but he will do it. Hell even Strange Visitor Superman with scaling off of Mxy could take Pre-Retcon Beyonder. The Beyonder has always been a child-like being, which makes him very dangerous. PR Beyonder was able to erase LT with a wave of his hand. Beyonder was everything inside the Multi-verse. From Lucifer #37. Pre-Retcon Beyonder was Omnipotent! The comics said so. Pre-Retcon Beyonders was. The thing is though, "Pre-Retcon Beyonder" is the Beyonder circa Secret Wars II, 1985. SCP-682's adaptive powers are seriously NLF-prone. He was the TOAA of own multiverse, separate to that of the Marvel multiverse before he came across the. "Pre-retcon" just means. Edit: Looking at the respect threads PR Beyonder actually seems a lot more impressive, and it seems my point regarding Lucifer being half the Presence was wrong. Yeah. At the time of the Secret Wars he was stated as being equal to the One Above All. Make an false image of him, From behind the beyonder. A common misconception about HoTU is that it's omnipotent or a fraction of TOAA's power, multiversal and some stuff of the like, the only indicator for this is that thanos absorbed LT during his fight, in terms of power, HoTU isn't a lot more impressive than the IG for an example. Beyonder - vs - Beyonder # 21 K. Living Tribunal >>>>>Pre-Retcon Beyonder>>>>>White crown phoenix "and yet Phoenix Rachel shocked the Beyonder. 0. Period. 14 years ago. pre retcon molecule man vs. This fight takes place in a neutral space and either party wants to kill the other. Pre Retcon Beyonder Stomps, the only powers that could hope to challenge him are The One Above, the Ultimate Source, The Presence, The Living Tribunal. Doom, when has anything even close to that happened to the Tribunal? My point is Marvel states he is the one thing/person/entity that. #2 deactivated-629d3023b5b49. 5 years ago. . Victory conditions: for the beyonder it is to destroy the entire race of time lords, for the time lords it is killing or making the beyonder surrender. The Beyonder, a young member of an ancient race known as the Beyonders, was made aware of the Marvel Universe due to an 'accident' orchestrated by the other Beyonders involving Owen Reece. In Lucifer DC Multiverse is not just infinite dimensional but also existing in multiple existence as seen in his conversation with Presence. Both are in character. They both basically live outside of the multiverses that they are part of. ago. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is the embodiment of the Beyond-Realm and is the chief of the extra-dimensional race the Beyonders who created the cosmic cubes and Kosmos, but the Maker (one of the. Even though most of Beyonder's feats in SW are still canon, Doom's statement could have *only* been in reference to POST-retcon (ie. Adptive armor isnt doing a thing for him here just as much as it helped against. Adviser (Vs)Pre- Retcon Beyonder would not be that much powerful if he came now. Additional powers include teleportation, flight, the ability to choose his own physical resistances and attributes. Pre-retcon molecule man is the most powerful version of recce. Beyonder can destroy the concept of death to the point that above Infinite-D beings like Molecule Man couldn't kill a freaking flower and can restore it while being power depleted with just a. . Prior to being retconned totally out of power and relevance, the Beyonder was basically the most powerful being in all of Marvel comics, totally. deactivated-5b3daad020468. The Darkest Knight (Man who laughs) vs The Beyonder. Regulator Thanos wins, both these characters are above LT in power scope, however the HOTU. . Motivation: ROB Fight in ROBverse. Pre Retcon Beyonder is more insane than his diet coke race counterparts Hickman used(yes they predate Hickman as Kubik in that FF4 comic shows, I know). So there are 2 feats for HoTU that need to get debunked. Apparently due to the latest post about Doom people are claiming some Bleach characters like Aizen can beat The God Emperor. Locked post. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Fighting place: Dr. Prepare for. The same way how Marvel was back then a multiverse. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is probably here as well. So the information given is contradictory as a Cosmic Cube can't do what the Beyonder did but he canonically does those things. WF Mxy vs Pre Retcon Beyonder is basically picking which company you like more : DC or Marvel. That being said, I’m going to give this one to the pre-retcon Beyonder. He represented everything outside the Marvel Universe, while TOAA represents MU. . Post-Retcon Beyonder: A cosmic cube being that had split in half, the other side being Molecule Man. When The Pre-Retcon Molecule Man(with the Infinite portion of The Beyonder's Powers)fought The Beyonder, they were stated to be "2 of the mightiest being in ALL Existence(or, All-Fiction)". #1. Win by destroying or sealing opponent. Assuming the several dimensions to be universes isn't something streched considering the PRB power. Followers. 2. Pre-Retcon Beyonder wrecks. 1. There it, the respect thread for Pre-Retcon Beyonder. First is the. 2. Hit a Like And Subscribe To Help Out💵 “Wanna Donate/Support? 💵👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇💰PayPal💰. Post-retcon: The planet or localized area of space is his plaything. A single PR Beyonder was enough to solo all the Celestials by himself . Cosmic armor supes needs a downgrade soon. Beyonder's best feats consist of warping reality on a Multiversal scale in his fight with MM, and being millions of times stronger than anyone in the marvel multiverse, but that's only impressive up to a certain point before it becomes. PR Beyonder had full backing by Marvel Boss, Jim Shooter to do anything he wanted. Pre-Retcon beyonder could be said to be the "God before genesis" he was God before TOAA existed in the comics at that time, and when TOAA came into existence as an omnipotent character they had to greatly reduce the power of the Beyonder, from there they began to know him as "Post-retcon beyonder". deactivated-5d755a684b00b. Reviews: 0. Pre Retcon Beyonder wins with ease! He is literally beyond everyone and everything (ofc not TOAA) and a multiversal threat. It's more like the One Above All kind of power. But it turns out. 548. remember wanda during HOM rewrote/destroyed 98 percent of the multiverse. The Tree of Knowledge alone contains infinite multiverses and aleph infinities and The Scarlet King could effortlessly destroy it. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. THe nature and effects of the Retcon are irrelevant. Round 10: Presence And GEB ( Respect Thread for GEB) Both are. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. I think you could argue rather convincingly that he's the 2nd moat powerful character in all of fiction, only behind TOAA. He. Thanos (w/ HOTU) vs. Because there is no "pre-retcon" Beyonder in Marvel canon -- that is nothing more than a made-up battleboard term. Pre-retcon: The universe was his plaything. COIE Monitors cited as. 5 years ago. You need to be logged in to post comments. Idk its hard to say because the beyonders who destroyed eternity infinity and all the cosmic entities, it took time for them to do that but the Marquis of Death waved his hand and they all died. #13 AgentofChaos1. Within the beyond realm, he's supposed to be omnipresent. Some stuff from DC like Lucifer Morningstar. Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Thanos w IG and heart of the universePre-Retcon Beyonder is infinitely more powerful than anyone not omnipotent. VS. His powers exceeded that of even abstract entities present in infinite realms, coupled with the LT who holds authority over said entities to the point where their powers are a drop in the ocean to him. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. As you can see in the marvel hierarchy the one above all is at the very top. #38 JayBlack. The Beyonder at his full power pre-retcon is omnipotent. Even The. 1. Pre Retcon Beyonder = TOAA > Eternity 1st Retconned Beyonder < Cosmic Cube (Because part of the power was in Owen Reece) Recent Retcon Beyonder < the marvel abstracts but not by much. Location: Above Earth. The Beyonder asks Molecule Man a question and doesn’t know if he can sacrifice Dave. Lucifer is way above pre Retcon BeyonderPRE RETCON BEYONDER goes to the DRAGON BALL universe and fights all Dragonball characters at the same time - this includes Zeno Sama, The Angels, Whis, All Gods of Destruction, Broly, Goku, Vegeta, etc. 13 years agoWasn't Pre-Retcon Beyonder just a child unit of Beyonder race? He was shown that way in Deadpool's Secret Wars. Poll Current Lucifer Morningstar vs. The. Thor Vs Justice League : Vs AVENGERS : 12 Cosmic Beings in Marvel :. EOS Li QiyVs Pre Retcon Beyonder Both are bloodlusted Both have basic knowledge of each other The battle takes place in a Nuetral location @DivineMaRound 3 Pre-retcon Beyonder takes this and with a good level of ease. Jim Shooter who was the editor at Marvel at the time said so and the Beyonder himself said so. Beyonder even realized he was the Pre-Retcon one too lol Not to mention Beyonder detailing Doc Strange's win con over him, tailor made for Loki and proven when he and Sylvie enchanted Alioth, who. "Pre retcon beyonder is omnipotent, so can easily take care of the Spectre," omipotent does not make a auto win. #1 Nicholas_Jones. It is capable of becoming a Multiversal threat, but it's vastly weaker than any of the Apollyon-Class SCPs. Hesperus 25 d . Some dude told me this guy was strong but i think goku can with with kamehameha. The old prerecton beyonder wasnt the same as the current beyonders, but he was related to them. R2: God stomps. He was like the 2nd strongest guy in Marvel, only underneath the One Above All. A. Beyonder, Pre-Retcon or Post-Retcon with minimum effort. Round 3: CAS and Myx vs PR Beyonder and Living Tribunal. There are Infinite, far less. Since the Chaos Gods have no way to kill him, he'll eventually win. But i think they have more "battle feats" (killed LT, killed millions/billions/or much more than that, of celestials (since they killed all of then from all multiverse). Round 3: All-Mighty vs TOAA. u/nullfather can attest to that. Which then would put the DC team a few steps below the over-void - DC's prime meta. For reference Pre-Retcon Beyonder is stronger than the Infinity Gauntlet by leaps and bounds but a Cosmic Cube is stated and shown to be vastly inferior to the Infinity Gauntlet. No, that was post-retcon Beyonder. Jim Shooter who was the editor at Marvel at the time said so and the Beyonder himself said so. That makes me believe that Beyonder may not be all that he is made out to be. TOAA wins because it's stated that Pre-Retcon Beyonder had control of the entire Multiverse excluding 616. User Lists: 20 Perpetua, due to far surperior feats. Third, Mxy would be erased of existence by. He's was designed by Jim Shooter to be a catch-all explanation for the existence of all the other fiction. This topic is locked from further discussion. The scarlet demon is omnipresent throughout the narrative stacks and normal SK is just a mere avatar of the scarlet demon. He's about cause and effect and. 3. He was the TOAA of own multiverse, separate to that of the Marvel multiverse before he came across the. -Beyonder/s are bloodlusted. Another statement made about. Numidium 2. The Beyonder/s (Marvel) vs Bleach universe. (Like many of these fights) Universal Steve. Beyonder stomp beyond comprehension. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is honestly far less impressive than Molecule man, at least current molecule man. Sorry this is turning into a minor RT haha,. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder casually eliminated Death from the universe and could have wiped out the universe in a snap. TOAA wins either way though. 8. 5 years ago. Wiki Points. 1 year ago. Beyonder (Pre-Retcon Feats, Secret Wars and 1984 and pre-1984 Scaling only) Ivory Kings, First Firmament + Ultimate Ultimates. CC Goku is outerversal while in Uni Blue, meanwhile Pre retcon Beyonder as far as i know is high outer and has way better feats, apart from being part of a much larger cosmology. While thinking the Beyonder accidentally destroys the Omniverse. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. He was the TOAA of his own multiverse, separate to that of the Marvel multiverse, before he came across the. PR Beyonder is probably the strongest comic character there is if you go by feats alone and not by hype. #2. Pre Retcon Beyonder shitstomps the edgelord version of Batman into the ground, along with the rest of the DCverse. Batman with prep vs Beyonder. 11,582. Wiki Points. You see, the thing is that Pre Retcon Beyonder is Secret Wars Beyonder, so it’s not completely incorrect in a away, but all these events are taking after the retcon, if you get what I mean. It's stated so multiple times throughout the comics. OPM can't even defeat Post-retcon Beyonder, let alone Pre-retcon. Beyonder was an alien entity from Marvel comics who was a multiversal threat and a hero. 0. Beyonder Spider-Man vs Naruto, MHA, Bleach, One Piece, Magi, Umineko, Sailor Moon and Saint Seiya verses. 1. (Please add any important quotations that may be missing, ensuring to cite the original source. The beyonder is a person from another plane of existence called the beyond which is larger than the marvel multiverse. Thanks!!!!!In fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. Though with infinite power he is far more concerned about his place in life after being the all and everything within his realm he tries to understand the concepts of Life, Death, and Desire all things that he want experience. Regardless. Round 1: All-Mighty vs True Form Oblivion. The Beyonder doesn’t know what the abstracts will say. Pretty sure it wasnt stated to end so. 4 years ago. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. Biography: The man, the myth, the legend. Pre Retcon Beyonder is far far beyond any of his other forms. So the information given is contradictory as a Cosmic Cube can't do what the Beyonder did but he canonically does those things. He encountered the child Beyonder in the latter's. Does it matter by that logic Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) because he didnt resist doom taking his power thats a contradiction in your opinion about PR Beyonder. Conditions of the battle: *Composite Time Lords will include variants of the Time Lords from the Expanded Doctor Who Universe (e. Basically all Dragonball characters ever created in their most powerful form fight PR BEYONDER all at the same time. Thanks!!!!!fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. Pre-Retcon Beyonder was Omnipotent! The comics said so. She surpasses him in raw power by far. About Pre-retcon/Classic Beyonder. MM is not as strong as Beyonder but he's above Living Tribunal, abstracts, IG and other such levels of cosmic power. cpg357 • 4 yr. 7 K. Marvel's Multiverse was not using Type III Multiversal Expansion. Now I made a lengthy blog detailing the powers of the Beyonder, Post-Retcon. well omnipotent. SCP-682 (SCP Foundation) vs Beyonder (Pre Retcon) Fight ends only in Death. Pre-Retcon Beyonder/Classic Beyonder-As a result of being the entirety of a dimension of far more scope than our own multiverse, he was more powerful than all of the rest of reality (he was. #6 Edited By DC_Marvel_1000. In Immortal Hulk#50 TOAA said he becomes TOBA when he has to do. 5 years ago. And with this analogy, Alovenus/Ruphas can create L1A character A in fiction A, But can easily defeated By character B In fiction B. Death only dealt with Dream so casually because of how the concepts they embody interact with each other. PRE-RETCON BEYONDER? All of them are BLOODLUSTED! TOAA is the special referee! DB universe characters start at their maximum power and are already at their most powerful form! 14 years ago. This is a simple fight. But it wont be easy by no means. #5. Mephisto said that The Beyonder could make idlest imaginings a reality with a wave of his hand, turning all of existence inside out), Vibration Manipulation (Created an earthquake throughout the city), Attack Reflection (Deflected Magneto's power beam towards the X-Men), Magnetism Manipulation (Repelled Magneto by duplicating his own magnetic. The only other non-Omnipotent characters in Marvel who might even rival a bloodlusted pre-Retcon Beyonder for one are the Infinite Infinites and Divine Creator VIA narrative wanking. 3. Pre-Retcon Beyonders was described to be like a child compared to the Beyonders we are seeing now. deactivated-5ffd6af867550. #1 quandaledingle. But Lucifer should win this quite handily. First, that was a bad parody of Aquiles. 11 months ago. He also sits just below the prime meta-versal being in his respective property. Post-retcon is still strong, there’s no doubt about that, but he’s still much much weaker than his Pre-retcon counterpart:. Jul 30, 2018. PR Beyonder curbstomps.